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Gi VS No-Gi: No Difference?

Posted: July 15, 2013 by patrickasay in Uncategorized

Stephan Kesting has a great reputation in the world of Brazilian Jiujitsu, Gi and Nogi (But from everything I’ve known of him he tends to do more instructional videos in Nogi. I Kind of wish he would do some in the Gi just because I find his teaching methods very effective).

Here, in his video, he shows a super cool technique that you can do both with and without the Gi.

Now, what is your preference? Do you think the Gi is more important than Nogi? Of equal importance? Of lesser importance?

I trained in Nogi for about 2 years before putting on the Gi. My personal preference, be it known, and putting aside all arguments for both, is the Gi!!! For three reasons:

#1 I feel it is more applicable to what we do at Applied Martial Arts, because the Gi simulates ACTUAL CLOTHING, like a jacket, hoodie, or even a T-Shirt. Training in the Gi is actually more effective in reality-based self defense than is Nogi, because most of the time people are wearing clothes when they attack you–and you can use that against them, having handle-holds everywhere, effective grips for sweeps and escapes, and TONS of submissions with whatever they’re wearing. If you wanted to be an MMA cage fighter, a sport that is topless, then you would have to train more Nogi than in-the-Gi (in my opinion, but I would still have an MMA guy cross train in the Gi for a more technical game).

Now, here at Applied Martial Arts/Asay Jiujitsu, we do teach Nogi to a very appropriate degree nonetheless, because what if you’re at the beach, where you aren’t wearing a shirt and neither is the guy who comes up to fight you? There are times where Nogi is essential. However, most of the time, Gi Jiujitsu is the way to go for reality-based self defense.

We do have a mandatory 20 hours of Nogi live-grappling (not just a class or demonstrations or drilling) that one must keep logged before earning their black belt in Asay Jiujitsu.

We don’t neglect the Nogi game, we just go by the statistics that, A. in this area it is cold more months out of the year and people wear jackets most of the time (even in summer people wear hoodies or jackets at night quite often). B. Most violent crimes happen at night time, when people are most likely going to be wearing a jacket or hoodie.

#2 I feel like the Gi game is more technical, slower paced, like a chess match.

Allow me to elaborate on that analogy: ¬†If you go to New York City and find “Chess Parks,” you’ll see some incredible talent…but they’re all playing “speed chess” (most of the time). If you take Gary Kasparov (multiple time world champion grand master of Chess) against the best speed chess guy in the parks of NYC, and have them both carefully play out their options, in a normal chess match where you have more time to think about your move, Kasparov would destroy!

Now, put Kasparov against the other guy in a speed chess match and…I still think Kasparov would destroy, but I really a not sure. At any rate, that really isn’t the point!

The point is this: I feel that you get a better grasp of the art of Jiujitsu when you have more time to think. The pace is slower in Gi than in Nogi (most would agree), and thus you are able to get really technical (having enough time to assess your situation and make necessary adjustments to your position).

And #3…

I personally think it is more fun putting on something heavy and learning how to be effectively mobile on the ground with extra weight.

Also, I LOVE Gi chokes!!! Very few things in martial arts give me the good ol’ feeling of satisfaction than to choke somebody (submit them) by using their OWN freaking clothing to do so! HAHAHA I love it! I don’t know why.

On the YouTube comments for the video, I came across an interesting exchange:

xymaster19 said, “great video, in order to have a solid no-gi game, its essential to train in the gi, just that simple, I usually train only once a week no-gi and the rest gi, one translates into the other very well and if you dont believe me just ask marcelo garcia :)”

gun slinger replied, “Really? Most greco Roman and Freestyle wrestlers would disagree. They have great grappling skills and have never trained with a gi. The gi is holding grappling back.”

Now what do y’all think?

What is your preference? Why?

–patrick asay
9th degree Aquamarine Belt in Udinkypoo-Jitzu


Patrick Who?

Posted: July 5, 2013 by patrickasay in Uncategorized

Patrick Who?

Patrick ASAY! That’s who! In Brian Brock’s previous post, he pretty much summed up everything in terms of who exactly we are and why we are doing what we are doing.

I’m definitely a work in progress! And Brian Brock has not only been an invaluable tool to the cause of Applied Martial Arts/Asay Jiujitsu (which is most important), but he has also made my game much better than if I had never met him.

This is the weird thing about Brian Brock: I have Black Belts in 3 styles, one in which is a 2nd Degree Black Belt…AND an unhealthy amount of experience in real-life violence…

…And I don’t think I have ever really taught him anything useful hahaha! It seems as though he does so much more for me than the reverse.

Also, if you hear me call him “Brock,” it’s not because it’s a formality thing…I just know too many Brians to care about confusing myself (which happens often) ūüėČ

Thanks for getting on this blog!


The arm bar from open guard and the knee guard shield scissor sweep from guard. Also, distancing yourself from the opponent’s punches all the while controlling him along the way.

This is the way we teach the stuff in Applied Martial Arts and Asay Jiujitsu, and I have found these techniques to be very effective. This is NOT THE ONLY WAY to get the job done, for there are many great grapplers who may teach things differently than we do, but that does not mean their way is wrong at all. I just teach what I’m good at and don’t attempt to teach things I’m not good at…yet. So keep that in mind and have an open mind.


So remember, if you’re in any other bottom position than bottom guard, either sweep them from your inferior position to achieve a dominant top position…or pull guard.

One thing I want y’all’s opinion on is this: Do you think that developing a strong guard game is of a lesser importance, equal importance, or greater importance than developing (and spend most your energy on) an either strong maintenance of superior positions to set up submissions and/or learning sweeps from the bottom position instead of going into guard?

What are your thoughts?

By the way I LOVE OPEN GUARD!!! Even though staying on my knees I am more confident with my strong base that very few can sweep gives me a stronger opportunity to either pass their guard or sweep them from the kneeling position to gain a dominant top position. I still use my guard a lot because I think it is a very powerful position to set up great sweeps and submissions…and also to prevent punches!…as demonstrated in the video.

Patrick Asay

Applied Martial Arts/Asay Jiujitsu


Posted: June 30, 2013 by patrickasay in Uncategorized

A Wing Chun Kung Fu practitioner teaches that his style can defeat grapplers by only using Kung Fu techniques.

DISCLAIMER:  Before you watch my response video, understand that I am a black belt/sash in Wing Chun Kung Fu and I absolutely love the art!  I am not trying to belittle Kung Fu.  It has a great place in combat training.  I also LOVE grappling.  I study both arts.  I am here to show you that you cannot substitute one style for another and/or put it in another medium and expect it to be effective.

Everything is pretty self-explanatory if you watch the videos.  Feedback welcome!!!!

patrick asay


(p.s. Why does he call himself “KerrMMA?” Doesn’t MMA actually have more grappling than Wing Chun Kung Fu???)

JiuJitsu Sucks…(but not really!)

Posted: June 19, 2013 by patrickasay in Uncategorized
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A film about a Mcdojo, “Foot Fist Way,” shows some of the horrors to be found in people who care about martial arts to make money instead of quality, legitimate instruction.

Here is a clip of an interview with the head instructor (a complete A$$) and a potential student. (Hilarious, by the way! Must watch! ¬†It’s darker than “Enter the Dojo,” but funny nevertheless.)

Okay, so I was asked by my esteemed colleague, Brian Brock, my Grand Eternal Master (haha j/k), to write up a blog post about what small changes I would make to Jiujitsu.

The very first thing that came to mind was the misconception in many traditional martial arts like Karate, Taekwondo, Kung Fu, etc. (all three of which I hold black belts in so I do not mean to belittle those arts in ANY way) have regarding fighting on the ground…and how they actually TEACH their students to never let a fight go to the ground because their education in their respective style will prevent that from ever happening.

Now, this is not a problem I have with Jiujitsu (I actually could not come up with something I would want to change about Jiujitsu [because I love it so much and also perhaps I am too inexperienced to muster up something solid]…just something I would like to happen in the world of traditional martial arts regarding the acknowledgment of the importance of implementing a “ground-game” for the just-in-case.)

Anyway, I have met (and even trained under) martial artists who do not believe in ground fighting. ¬†I have a serious problem with this. ¬†Now, if there are multiple attackers you NEVER would want to go to the ground and commit yourself to one attacker while the other three will just beat you as you’re on the ground. ¬†But…if there are not multiple attackers, and you must fight to survive, you can probably bet that your experience in grappling has a better shot at you winning the fight than staying standing and exchanging punches. ¬†Anyone can punch and kick, whether they have martial arts background or not. ¬†BUT NOT JUST ANYBODY can roll on the ground and protect themselves while you are strategically and skillfully controlling them and putting them in submissions. ¬†They would have no idea what just happened to them.

I have two students, Kelsie (18 years old) and Kenzi (16 years old) who earned their second stripe on their white belt last week by submitting a random joe off the street (who I compensated for his humiliation) (male, stronger, substantially bigger, etc.). ¬†When they were rolling with him on the mat and gaining superior positions all over the place, submitting him at every limb…HE HAD NO IDEA HOW TO HANDLE THEM, despite being bigger and stronger. He was a fish-out-of-water on the ground. ¬†I was and am still very proud of them. ¬†I actually train them tonight.

So…Jiujitsu sucks. ¬†HAHAHAHAHA!!

If there’s anything I’ve learned about Jiujitsu, it’s that IT WORKS! ¬†The mats don’t lie. ¬†The “grand masters” of traditional martial arts who say that their “death palm technique” can kill a person with one hit to a secret pressure point on the body…well…I don’t want to necessarily say they’re wrong (because Brock is very diplomatic on this site and would get on my case lol), but I will say this: ¬†how do they prove it? ¬†If I told you that I am unsweepable to your average Jiujitsu Blue Belt…I could prove it by rolling with several Blue Belts. ¬†And if I couldn’t be swept? Well then, I backed up my words. ¬†And that is TRUTH. ¬†I would gain reputability. ¬†Words mean little, but Jiujitsu never lies.

Any thoughts?

Patrick Asay

Re: Know Your enemy

Posted: June 19, 2013 by patrickasay in Uncategorized

I agree with Brock completely on all points mentioned in his post. ¬†I’d like to refer the reader to an article, from a great self defense website called ¬†In it, Marc MacYoung, a veteran “street” fighter (you may verify this by doing some internet research on him. He is very reputable in the self defense world and has even been an expert witness at trials in which he testified on how certain things happened the way they did, why they did, and the resulting consequences of the violent encounter) explains, “…self-defense¬†is a much more¬†complex issue¬†than mere physical prowess. Commonsense, lifestyle choices, certain habits and good manners will go¬†much¬†further to ensure your personal safety than¬†any¬†fighting style. This is despite what a fast talking¬†MA school owner¬†will tell you as he’s trying to get you to sign the¬†contract.” ¬†(feel free to click on the blue, highlighted links that will take you to his site explaining the topics). ¬†

Now, he easily comes across as an anti-martial arts activist, but he’s really not. ¬†He really is all about “no nonsense self defense.” ¬†He definitely acknowledges that you can use “martial arts” techniques in a self defense situation, but most of the time it is probably not called for. ¬†Here is the link to the page that Brock’s article reminded me of: ¬† It’s a great read! ¬†I have exchanged many emails with Mr. MacYoung and the guy is an encyclopedia of knowledge when it comes to the reality of violence and how to prevent it, after living a lifetime of being stupid and getting into all kinds of violence. ¬†He’ll even admit that freely.


Anyway, check it out!



Re: Streets of Rage

Posted: June 13, 2013 by patrickasay in Uncategorized

As a “reality-based self defense” specialist, I found this to be a very interesting read, with a lot of excellent points. ¬†I learned that I probably use the word “street” too broadly, and should probably make an effort to be more specific when instructing my students. ¬†Thanks Brock!

Now, I used to have a reality-based instructor that did not believe in sparring in a sport-oriented fashion because there are “rules,” and, of course, there are no “rules” in a street fight (note my sarcasm). ¬†I agree with Brock, that there are actually “rules” in just about any violent scenario, with terms and conditions. ¬†For example, if I was to get in a fight with the average joe, on the “street,” I would have rules because of my responsibility as a martial artist. ¬†Not necessarily that the judge would give a harsher penalty if I won because of my martial arts experience, but more that I have a personal responsibility to control myself and not harm the person more than is absolutely necessary to “stop” them, because I am trained. ¬†

I do not share the same “hate” that Brock has when dealing with the term “the street,” because I think you have to have some way of explaining to the layman the difference between a sport-oriented fight and something violent that happens in the real world, outside of the ring, or cage.

Saying that an MMA cage fight is no different than a brawl in a bar because both can implement martial arts training does not give proper justice to factors like weapons (guns, knives, beer bottles, etc.), multiple attackers (the guy’s friends he’s with), and obstacles (chairs, tables, the jukebox, etc…all things that you don’t have to deal with in a sports-oriented fight.) ¬†

Extreme circumstances may call for extreme measures.  For example, I would probably react much more harshly to an under-the-influence knife wielder throwing a strike at me than I would sparring with a fellow martial artist wearing gloves throwing a strike at me.  

Can you use skills from one medium (sports-oriented martial arts) in another medium (a “street fight”)? Yes. ¬†They are transferable. ¬†I have personally rolled with Brock in a safe, sporty environment and can very accurately say that I would be in huge trouble if I got in a fight with him somewhere other than on a mat. ¬†He knows how to control me in such a way that an eye gouge (a common “reality based” technique) would be useless. ¬†He would stay tight on me and my arms would be too trapped to strike. ¬†

Nevertheless, I do agree that the term “the street” is too broad. ¬†I will make a personal effort to be more specific about combat situations when teaching. ¬†I just can’t promise that I won’t slip up and use the term “the street” when referring to a fight that does not occur on a comfortable mat, a referee, rules that are more “fair” than what could happen in a real-life attack, etc. Just because I am so accustomed to teaching high-percentage techniques that apply more closely to a more extreme violent situation than a sports match. ¬†For example, for those of you who are familiar with Jiujitsu, I would first teach a beginner the basic arm bar from guard than I would the crucifix from side mount. ¬†One just happens more often than the other, so I therefore prefer to include it in a “reality-based” curriculum for the typical joe that just wants to be able to defend himself on “the street” (sorry Brock). ¬†Because perhaps his goal is just that, to be able to defend himself, and not to become a black belt in Brazilian Jiujitsu. ¬†

Excellent article, Brock. ¬†Not nearly as controversial as I was expecting it to be based off your warning earlier ūüėČ